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Is this unethical and deceptive?

ACT! Extra deceptive return address

This deceptive return address is a solicitation to renew a subscription to ACT! Extra

Some years ago, when I first started using ACT! as my contact management program, I subscribed to ACT! Extra. Since I didn't find it valuable, I did not renew the subscription. At first they kept sending me invoices and Past Due notices, with PAST DUE splattered all over the outside of the envelopes that came to my office (Thanks for that reputation). For the first year or two, I sent several mail responses and left several phone messages that I did NOT want to renew and to please take me off their mailing list.  No - they're still sending stuff, often from different return addresses. 

When I opened this envelope this morning, I was really ticked off, to find yet another "subscriptional renewal notice" from these people. How can these people imagine that I would want to do business when anyone who has to resort to these tactics?

I don't believe there is any direct connection with ACT! software, which is owned by Sage.

In any case - I just wanted to warn any of you thinking of subscribing to ACT! Extra that you may never, ever be rid of those people! The company (?) at the top of the notice is Eli Research with a post office box in Philadelphia.

Comments

Sharon, it looks like "marketing" through "intimidation" to me:)  It is so "official" looking---many people might just think they were in the wrong somehow and they better renew real fast!

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Hi Shannon,   I can't read the return address but understand the frustration of your post.  I guess they get enough re-ups that it makes sense to resort to this type of marketing.

Posted by Bill Gillhespy Fort Myers Beach Realtor Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos (16 Sunview Blvd) over 3 years ago

That's awful! I'm sorry to hear that happened to you! I too have had real estate vendors harassing me to buy their product and quite frankly, the tactics they use to sell, REALLY don't make me want to buy!

Imagine if we went at our clients in that manner! The reaction would not be good and I don't think we'd get ANY business!

Best of luck to you with this situation and thanks for the heads up!

Kind Regards, Nicole Weidauer

The Egerer & Weidauer Team, Keller Williams Realty North Seattle

Posted by Nicole Weidauer (Keller Williams Greater Seattle) over 3 years ago

Sharon-

I receive very similar types of mail from companies claiming to be my domain registrar and that I need to pay up or I'll be shut down. I never heard of these people and they just don't stop. They actually were able to get my domain switched over some years ago!

Posted by • Waterway Realty, Realtors® • Broker • South East Florida • over 3 years ago

Hi Sharon,

It must make you feel good for the office staff to see your delinquent notice coming in the mail. Did they ask you to pay them in cash?

These tacticts are disgraceful, isn't there an agency that you could report them to?

Posted by Harold (Hal) Place (A1 Connection Realty, Inc.) over 3 years ago

Is there a postage paid envelope included?  If so, stuff it with your other junk mail and send it back to them :)

Posted by Lisa Heindel, New Orleans Real Estate Broker (Crescent City Living LLC) over 3 years ago

I gave up act 6 years ago and still get their JUNK

Posted by Thesa Chambers, Principal Broker Licensed in Oregon, with (Prudential NW Properties Sunriver) over 3 years ago

Sharon... I have to agree with Lisa... We have a few companies that insist on sending us junk even after we've requested countless times for them to stop.  Now, I save their return envelope and stuff it with as much stuff as I can and mail it back to them.  I managed to squish a coke can down enough the other day to get in the envelope.  They may never get the message but it does give me a chuckle every time I drop the envelope in the mail slot.

Posted by Fairbanks Alaska Real Estate Specialists Jesse & Kathy Clifton 907-328-9328 (Jesse Clifton & Associates, REALTORS®) over 3 years ago

Sharon That is the most negative form of marketing and I am amazed they continue to have customers. It's used car sales tactics at their worst! It never ceases to amaze me the unprofessional and downright stupid behavior that we run in to every day!

Have a great weekend -Russell

Posted by Russell Lewis, Broker,CLHMS,GRI (Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate) over 3 years ago

Grrrrrr!  Stuff like this makes me crazy!  They should really figure out that if they annoy former clients, they will remain former clients.  And ACT will become blog fodder - even worse!

Posted by Patricia Kennedy (Evers & Company Realtors) over 3 years ago

Charles - agreed. I doubt that many people renew because of it, but many - like me - probably do open the envelope.

Bill - yes, you're probably right. That's why people keep sending spam e-mail, too.

Nicole - thanks. I really don't need luck with anything - they keep sending and I keep trashing. Just wanted to expose them to a wider audience.

Mott - yes, domain registrars are notorious for that. Years ago I had a domain pirated and I could never get it corrected.

Hal - probably, consumer protection or better business bureau - in Philadelphia there may be a newspaper or tv station that investigates and reports on businesses like that. Like too many others, it hasn't been a valuable use of my time to pursue it.

Lisa - I don't remember. I'll have to do that next time.

Thesa - it makes you wonder how much less these programs/subscriptions would cost if they cut out all the mailings, phone calls and harassers.

Jesse - maybe some lead fishing weights??

Russell - it's sure negative to me. Have a great weekend yourself!

Patricia - maybe I should send it to Sage Software and tell them what a bad rap ACT! is getting because of it.

Posted by Sharon Simms St Pete FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS (ALVA International, Inc.) over 3 years ago

Oooh, Sharon... you're good.  haha

Posted by Fairbanks Alaska Real Estate Specialists Jesse & Kathy Clifton 907-328-9328 (Jesse Clifton & Associates, REALTORS®) over 3 years ago

Jesse - especially when I have you to egg me on!

Posted by Sharon Simms St Pete FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS (ALVA International, Inc.) over 3 years ago

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